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Books

1 2018-11-13 11:51

What are you reading?
I have found a bunch of short stories by Horacio Quiroga. It's pleasant.

2 2018-11-13 13:25

I recently finished ``The Three-Body Problem'', by Cixin Liu. I really enjoyed it and I plan to read the other books in the trilogy soon.

3 2018-11-13 19:26

>>2
I've put it on my list. First heard about it in an episode of some podcast I listen to. I've been evading anything Chinese Sci-Fi as yet, but I'm trying to read a some of this stuff at least, because other persons seem to like it and I'm another person and maybe I'm one of those other persons.

I also read an [article](https://www.zeit.de/zeit-magazin/2018/42/science-fiction-autor-liu-cixin-china) about Cixin Liu a few weeks ago (warning: German language & commercial newspaper). He appears to have an interesting biography: Worked a dead-end office job in a water energy plant, got bored and used his mostly idle hours at work to write. Claims not having written anything substantial for many years, though, as he seems to suffer from some sort of writer's block, at least in terms of epic Sci-Fi stuff, if I recall correctly.

It's funny how he appears to have adopted a rather "Not my department" attitude. He's member of several of the Party's cultural commissions and so forth, and ostensibly does not really care to much about day-to-day politics. Reeks of opportunism, but who am I to contrive of such allegations.

I think he has a case by pointing out "The West's" hypocrisy, though, as not only the Chinese tread on civil/human rights. Mass electronic eavesdropping, for example, is a Western invention, and the Chinese govt. adopted it. Social credit scores govern whether I can take a loan or not and are not exactly China specific. My goverment is just not as blunt and does not call it that way, or outsources its work to paypal et al.

Anyway, I digress. Just wanted to write something on this nice late autumn evening before my comfy little evening walk. It's dark already. When I walk along the maple-lined avenues, illuminated by the melliferous streetlights, auburn leaves rustle under my steps and whirl up sweet and bitter fragrances. It's quite rainy these days and my red windbreaker keeps me warm.

Just like this textboard. Pretty ergonomic, and fashionably lean overall. Keep it up. Thanks!

4 2018-11-15 05:59

>>2
yup, this is good.

I've just started on Toni Morrison's "Song of Solomon".

5 2018-11-24 15:46

Reading Kino no Tabi vol 1. So far, so good.

6 2018-11-28 05:58

About 2/3rd into C&P. I might pick up The Idiot or W&P next. Almost finished with the first Ripley novel, and will likely continue with the author's other novels. Also about 200 pages into Dancing in the Glory of Monsters, I should continue with that one.

7 2018-12-13 06:53

The Accusation by Bandi, a collection of short stories smuggled out of North Korea.

Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman by Haruki Murakami, a collection of short stories from Japan translated by two Americans.

Turning The Eye by Patricia Grace, a collection of short stories from New Zealand with academic commentary.

8 2018-12-25 04:26

Timothy Morton

2007 - Ecology Without Nature: Rethinking Environmental Aesthetics https://u.teknik.io/MJozI.pdf
2010 - The Ecological Thought https://u.teknik.io/U07fb.pdf
2013 - Realist Magic: Objects, Ontology, Causality https://u.teknik.io/GwCXM.pdf
2013 - Hyperobjects: Philosophy and Ecology after the End of the World https://u.teknik.io/iXjnv.pdf
2016 - Dark Ecology: For a Logic of Future Coexistence https://u.teknik.io/1ZSrz.pdf
2017 - Humankind: Solidarity with Non-Human People https://u.teknik.io/OCmIm.pdf
2018 - Being Ecological https://u.teknik.io/Rh9lL.pdf

9 2019-01-02 17:02 *

Snow Crash. The author foresaw (or inspired) everything that we have today, so it's almost kind of boring.
Still impressive and very nicely written.

I regret not having read it on time.

10 2019-01-04 20:14

Serotonine - Houellebecq

11 2019-01-23 11:55

Le Français par la méthode nature, by Arthur M. Jensen. I'm still in chapter 2, but I love the fact that I don't need to use a dictionary.

12 2019-01-24 02:10

Count of Monte Cristo

13 2019-01-28 09:13

just finished Players by Don DeLillo

next up By Night In Chile by Roberto Bolaño

14 2019-02-10 01:38

>>11
Are you interested in a /fr/ench board right here by chance?

15 2019-03-09 18:39

Nabokov "Speak, Memory"
By now I have read it for about fifty pages, left off at the spot where he grew past 18 years of age. I don't recommend it so far, but I want to read further. Sometimes he seems to get cocky about his writer fame. I don't understand why, probably because I haven't read anything else he wrote although I've heard praise for his novels.
Besides that I currently read a book that teaches how to use the Linux command line. The author (namely William Shotts) writes small bland silly jokes into the text at times, but the book has served me well so far.

>>11
Sounds fantastic.

>>12
What do you think, any good? It took me three months to read, but it feels worth it, I am not sure why, maybe because it made me me.

16 2019-03-17 08:15

>>8 Realist Magic might be the most important book written this century thus far.

17 2019-05-07 22:54

Plant Love: The Scandalous Truth About the Sex Life of Plants by Michael Allaby

18 2019-06-05 06:35

I recently read all four of the Inspector Akyl Bourbayev detective novels by Tom Callaghan in as many days.

On Contemporary Art by César Aira.

Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison.

currently reading The Dispossessed by Ursula K Le Guin.

19 2019-09-18 15:17

i am reading kojeve's book about hegel for 1 year now

20 2019-10-04 20:43

Just finished Talbot's _The Devil's Chessboard_ about Allan Dulles and the CIA.

I was already somewhat familiar with MKULTRA and some other notorious CIA actions. But by reading this book I learned some new things about violent incidents that allegedly involved CIA illegality, most notably the assassination of Congolese independence leader Patrice Lumumba.

Much of the book is dedicated to Talbot's theories about involvement of CIA and Dulles with assassinations of JFK and RFK.

The book is not written in a way that makes it easy to check Talbot's sources, reasoning etc.

Would not recommend this book although it did give me some topics for further reading, specifically Lumumba and the US House Select Committee on Assassinations.

I think it's likely that there are more rigorous books covering the same subject matter (or preferably multiple books each covering a subset) although I can't make a recommendation here.

21 2019-10-05 15:22

I'm reading Moneyland. It's about state corruption and rich people hiding their money offshore. Fairly depressing.

22 2019-10-05 18:03

Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson. Need to lighten it up and dive into some fantasy once in awhile.

23 2019-10-05 23:31

I'm about halfway through Godel, Escher, Bach. It's been a fascinating read. Would recommend to anyone interested in formal systems, CS, or the mind.

24 2019-10-06 01:45

can you clarify "important"?

25 2019-10-06 01:46

with regard to Realist Magic

26 2019-10-06 13:14

> 22

Mistborn is really good. do follow up with "The way of Kings"

I am reading "The War of Art" and "turning Pro" by Steven Pressfield.
They are awesome

27 2019-10-06 15:12 *

oh. fuck.

28 2019-10-06 16:56

adjective
of great significance or value.
"important habitats for wildlife"

29 2019-10-06 18:24

Canticle For Leibowitz

30 2019-11-20 09:42

Bailed out of The Idiot by Dostoevsky in the original Russian.

Eating Việt Nam by Graham Holliday. Food blogger expands on his time in the country. A much lighter read than the previous title.

After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck. Subtitle says it all. Enjoyed this.

Just started Kitchen by Banana Yoshimoto

31 2019-11-26 03:27

I was reading Count Zero. But i had to stop because i had some collage stuff to do.

32 2019-12-08 14:58

Mackay's Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

33 2019-12-09 20:46

I'm reading An Ottoman Traveller, a partial English translation of the Seyahatnâme by Evliya Çelebi. It's basically a travel journal written in the 17th century. Very interesting.

34 2019-12-26 05:14

Woman's Mysteries: Ancient & Modern by Esther Harding (a student of C.G Jung)

35 2020-01-29 08:58

>>8
Thanks for these, Humankind was very good.

Dipped into the Grundrisse again in anticipation of David Harvey's course on it.

Having a tough time finding fiction to read but I've been enjoying the New Yorker's Fiction Podcast and The Writer's Voice

36 2020-03-21 12:41

>>22,26
I read the original trilogy. The first book was enjoyable but it went downhill quickly after that. By the third book it became really repetitive and boring. Not to mention the stupid ending.

37 2020-04-27 19:03

eGirls, eCitizens is a landmark work that explores the many forces that shape girls’ and young women’s experiences of privacy, identity, and equality in our digitally networked society.

https://ruor.uottawa.ca/bitstream/10393/32376/1/9780776622590_WEB.pdf

38 2020-04-28 04:35 *

>>37

While some feminist scholars worried that digital communications technologies might represent the latest examples of patriarchal technological control,³ others predicted that girls and young women were particularly well situated to reap the benefits of digitized communications networks.⁴ Some feminist cyber-optimists metaphorically imagined the possibility of using the network to subvert patriarchy entirely.⁵

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4 - Michele White, “Too Close to See: Men, Women, and Webcams” New Media & Society 5:1 (2003): 7; Hille Koskela, “Webcams, TV Shows and Mobile Phones: Empowering Exhibitionism,” Surveillance and Society 2:3 (2004): 199; Sadie Plant, “On the Matrix: Cyberfeminist Simulations,” in Cultures of Internet: Virtual Spaces, Real Histories, Living Bodies, ed. Rob Shields (London: SAGE, 1996), 170; Donna Haraway, “A Cyborg Manifesto: Science, Technology and Socialist-Feminism in the Late Twentieth Century,” in Simians, Cyborgs and Women: The Reinvention of Nature, ed. Donna Haraway (New York: Routledge, 1991), 149.
5 - Plant, supra note 4.

I'm gonna need sauce on this.

* Michele White, "Too Close to See": https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/94cb/f3d0f0a98f0508600b8526ff531c9b0bfb93.pdf
* Hille Koskela, "Webcams, TV Shows and Mobile Phones: Empowering Exhibitionism": https://ojs.library.queensu.ca/index.php/surveillance-and-society/article/view/3374/3337
* Sadie Plant, "On the Matrix": https://uberty.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Sadie-Plant-On-the-Matrix-Cyberfeminist-Simulations.pdf
* Simians, Cyborgs and Women: The Reinvention of Nature : https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=6C2061E544015040D287642904A059C2

39 2020-04-28 06:11 *

>>37,38
Michele White, "Too Close to See": Icy You...Juicy Me
Kind of a tedious university work. It's only the cliché theory of empowerment repeated over and over, with a quote from Slavoj Žižek or Foucault here and there.

webcam: 190 occurences
empower*: 14 occurences
control: 26 occurences
wom*: 105 occurences
operator: 68 occurences

Interesting nonetheless as a historical account of the first ``women empowered webcam operators'' as it was published in 2003. I've never heard of JenniCam (1996) before.

https://splinternews.com/the-lost-history-of-the-very-first-camgirl-clique-1793858562
Found this cool web page named "The Sonnets to JenniCam", a parody of Rilke's "The Sonnets to Orpheus." http://www.polyamory.org/~howard/Jenni/

A cam can do it. How do you expect
a man to squeeze on through the wire and follow?
His mind would split. Where eyeballs intersect,
you won't find any temple to Apollo.

True Seeing, as it teaches, isn't wanting,
isn't wooing Jenni just to win her hand;
no, Seeing's Being. For the cam, not daunting.
But when are we? When does it deign to scan

her heat and heart into our being-sight?
It isn't that you lust for her, not if
the surging juices crowd your loins - that trance,

a passing fancy, will not last the night.
To see in truth's a different view. A glyph.
A blur. A quiver in the cam. A glance.

40 2020-04-28 06:56 *

>>37-39
Hille Koskela, "Webcams, TV Shows and Mobile Phones: Empowering Exhibitionism"
A much more inspired, philosophical and cyberpunk paper than >>39. The University of Helsinki has higher standard, as expected. For a starter, the author cares to explain the ``empowering exhibitionnism'' thesis.

A telling example of this is what Presdee (2000) has called the ‘criminalisation of culture’. By the regime of shame I mean individuals’ internalisation of control, in the Foucauldian sense. The idea of having or doing something that cannot be shown. The basic ‘need’ for privacy. The regime of shame keeps people meek and obedient as efficiently as any control coming from outside. Rejecting it, is unacceptable and immodest. Further, these controls from outside and from inside are most effective when functioning together: the combination of fear and shame ensures submissiveness.Indeed, home webcams challenge these both. By revealing their private intimate lives individuals refuse to take part in these two regimes. If this is exhibitionism that succeeds in overcoming these two, then exhibitionism can truly work as a form of empowerment. The liberation from shame and from the ‘need’ to hide leads to empowerment. Conceptually, when you show ‘everything’ you become ‘free’: no one can ‘capture’ you any more, since there is nothing left to capture.

Home webcams challenge this understanding, too. By presenting intimate pictures of private life, their owners refuse to play ‘the game of bad conscience’. They rebel against the modesty and shame embedded in the conception of the private. They may be ‘normal’ in some sense but they are also automatically outside some of the conventional notions of normal, exactly because of their cameras. They refuse to be humble which, to my opinion, is the most interesting point in the whole phenomenon.

And about JenniCAM:

The virtual world was once thought to bring us to an era, which could be called “post-gender” (Higgins et al., 1999: 111). It was supposed to be a realm where identities can be hidden, where “the failings of the body will supposedly melt away, where the soul will be able to express itself fully” (Wertheim, 1997: 302), where gender-switching will become possible (Roberts and Parks, 2001) and “misrepresentations of self” (Wakeford, 1998: 181) are understood to be a taken for granted opportunity rather than a morally precarious action. The home webcams contribute in completely turning this development up side down. They create an anti-statement to this by bringing back the bodily subjects– or at least their visual representations. They generate a re-embodiment of subjects, and break the distinction between “‘pure human beings’ and ‘simulated disembodied post-humans’” (Featherstone and Burrows, 1995: 11). The virtual ‘avatar’ existence is connected with bodily existence. The subject is thus mediating ‘between the embodied self and the ”I” that is simultaneously present in the virtual realm’ (Higgins et al., 1999: 115). While Jenni with her camera can from one perspective be interpreted as a ‘cyborg’, her visual representations also bring us quite close to her material (female) body. Yet, she seems to be flouting the cultural rules for the display of the female body by clearly announcing her own precedence and awareness of the position as something to be seen.

41 2020-04-28 07:45 *

>>37-40
Sadie Plant, "On the Matrix" (1996)

Now that's radical cyberfeminism and poetry! A must-read, it's not a student work but an essay written by a hacker (and doctor philosophiae). I'd have to quote the whole text but these are scanned pages. Hell, I'll be a copy typist if nobody else thought this text was worth it.

I've never heard of her before nor have I heard of A Cyberfeminist Manifestor for the 21st Century from the early 1990s. That was a shame.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadie_Plant
https://vnsmatrix.net/projects/the-cyberfeminist-manifesto-for-the-21st-century

we are the virus of the new world disorder
disrupting the symbolic from within
saboteurs of big daddy mainframe
the clitoris is a direct line to the matrix

VNX MATRIX
terminators of the moral code...

Let's leave Donna Haraway, the other great theorician of cyberfeminism, for tomorrow.

42 2020-04-29 10:37

>>41
CCRU stuff is one heck of a trip

43 2020-05-02 17:26 *

>>42

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetic_Culture_Research_Unit

After only a short time, in 1997, Plant left her academic post and affiliation with the Ccru, and it came under the direction of Land.

I don't get it.

44 2020-05-18 00:57

Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle

45 2020-05-26 21:43

Crash!, JG Ballard

46 2020-05-29 07:37

>>45
I just finished High Rise the other day. Makes me want to read the rest of his works.

47 2020-05-30 01:25

I don't usually read anything historical or even nonfiction, but I was given a copy of In the Heart of the Sea, which details the shipwreck that inspired Moby Dick. It's interesting enough but what got my attention is the first-hand accounts and snippets of diaries and how the writing of these relatively uneducated sailors seems like literature and prose compared to anything the common man writes today.

48 2020-06-29 20:34

The Culture Of Critique, Kevin Macdonald

49 2020-07-02 19:10

Flannery O'Connor - The Complete Stories.

50 2020-07-07 11:09

Chuang, 2nd issue (Frontiers).

51 2020-07-10 08:02

Introduction to Nuclear and Particle Physics, by A. Das and T. Ferbel. I have just started it, it seems pretty good.

52 2020-07-11 05:37

Going through the Book of Habakkuk.

53 2020-08-18 20:41

A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge -- I think the world building was better than the plot, but worth a read.

54 2020-08-18 20:43

ha, sounds like exactly what I did recently. Couldn't put The Way of Kings down!

55 2020-08-26 17:30

Jacques Ranciere's "Ignorant Schoolmaster".

56 2020-08-26 18:00

>>55
One of my favourites. When I first read it, I couldn't put it down. Once finished, I immediately started over to make extensive notes. It's amazing.

57 2020-09-06 06:43

Holy Bible - good book, don't read much else anymore. We are all toast as a human race on this planet - the only escape is to accept Jesus is coming back for you if you ask Him to. There is no other way out - all these fake religions like Catholic or Islam or Buddha or Satanizm or Holy Weed culture, or whatever else you can dream up - you'll all burn in hell.
The only way is to accept Jesus - the only way!!

58 2020-09-08 11:58

I don't know if it's just one anon doing this or if there is a real resurgence, but lately whatever obscure board I visit there is always a Missionary trying to spread the gospel, no matter what kind of hobby the board is built around.

59 2020-09-08 12:55 *

>>58
The crew got bored of pushing vedicism again and fell back on abrahamism.

60 2020-09-11 09:38

I just started the Dragonriders of Pern series.

61 2020-09-15 01:01

Working my way through all of Jane Austen's novels. I'm on Emma. Finished Pride & Prejudice, Sense & Sensibility, Northanger Abbey, and Mansfield Park.

62 2020-10-15 21:29

please give it a rest

63 2020-10-15 21:30

re: 57

64 2020-10-15 22:51

I read _The Ecocentrists_ (hardback ISBN: 9780231165884). I expected a broad history of radical elements within the environmental movement; I was half satisfied with what I got.

Lots of space devoted to specific actions by the Sierra Club vis a vis the US forest service and other government agencies in the late 20th century. I'm not saying this is unimportant but I don't really want to spend time reading a blow by blow account of such events.

I had to think for a while before I remembered some information from the book that I did not already know while also considering as valuable knowledge for a member of the environmental movement who is not a professional forester, lobbyist, environmental nonprofit employee, etc.:

- Judi Bari and Darryl Cherney, associates of Earth First!, were severely injured by a car bomb in the summer of 1990. They were investigated by the US FBI and Oakland California Police department and ultimately charged with transporting an explosive device.

Aside, not discussed in the book that I recall: they were acquitted at trial and the FBI subsequently lost a suit claiming that the investigation violated Bari and Cherney's civil rights. The jury awarded $4.4M USD damages in 2002, but Bari had already died in 1997. Cherney and Bari maintained the bomb was placed in the car as an attack on them rather than being placed by them for use in environmentalism-motivated terrorist action.

- Tree spiking was a controversial tactic even within the extreme wing of Earth First!; it seems to have been practiced less than I thought, and with more trepidation about the possibility of hurting loggers. According to the book it is unknown whether any person working in the logging or lumber industries was ever injured as a result of tree spiking. One sawmill employee was badly hurt by metal embedded in a log but it's not known whether the metal was there because of tree spiking.

The book takes an all-USA perspective and covers a time period in which climate change wasn't widely acknowledged as a major environmental issue even within the movement. For these reasons the book can seem irrelevant without some framing discussion about how our current environmental crisis can be illuminated by these past events. Guess I will have to look elsewhere for that.

65 2020-10-16 01:14

>>64
It's got bombs, cash, and cops. Any hippie-on-hippie action?

66 2020-10-16 20:05

The Official Sex Manual by Gerald Sussman

https://openlibrary.org/books/OL5948487M/The_official_sex_manual

67 2021-06-08 00:15

fdghjk

68 2021-06-09 22:43

A book on graph theory that's surprisingly good. I found it in the next mall over.
I took a break from the topology book as I got filtered by fundamental groups.
One night I'll finish Dostoevsky.

69 2021-06-15 19:52

You're not missing anything.
Go pursue the dreams you gave up on instead. It makes the blood to flow in a worn out body, and the tired lines to grow gladly wise.

70 2021-06-28 09:46

Reading about LEVERAGE

71 2021-06-28 10:59

With each and every breath

72 2021-06-29 16:22 *

>>71
Good taste, Theravedin friend. I just started regularly meditating again and reread the instructions in that book. Progress is slow, but I like Thanissaro's framing of the path as mastering a skill; it helps keep me motivated even when it feels like I'm stagnating.

73 2021-06-30 00:16

Three-body problem

74 2021-07-03 18:04

anything in the culture series is pretty good so far. the problem is that the earth is actually, literally a prison planet for an unacceptable germ that spawns a planet of beings created to mine precious metals from their worlds and then assemble massive culture aversive mimetic/cyberfungal minds that exist only to dominate and replicate until they acheive a permaculture of complete universal expansion. we have been placed somewhere from which there is no escape so that we may exist and perhpas grow to the point to where we can be reaccepted into the culture, but until then, we are where there is no escape possible due to the limited resources and isolated nature of our situation in this total-hell-compared-to-other-worlds.

The culture is in contact with some individuals, and have revealed themselves. There is still no possible hope for escape at this time.

75 2021-07-05 09:48

Newspaper

76 2021-07-15 02:11

>>65
That’s covered in Woodstock.

77 2021-08-14 05:08

I shall begin to read again all Moomins books. Right now.

78 2021-08-22 20:23

Opportunities in Engineering
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24681

Fun little book from 1920 trying to convince people to become engineers.

79 2021-10-21 07:04

I'm reading David Graeber's Bullshit Jobs: A Theory
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-bullshit-jobs

Turns out my job is just slightly bullshit.

80 2021-10-21 15:04

i'm reading "the gift of fear" to supplement my krav maga training.

81 2021-10-23 14:16 *

Don't forget the other thread: https://textboard.org/sol/348

82 2021-10-24 17:44

A Practical Guide to Self-Hypnosis by Melvin Powers
https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/22814

83 2022-01-18 11:40

The One-Straw Revolution: An Introduction to Natural Farming - Masanobu Fukuoka

84 2022-01-18 16:07

The Bell Curve

85 2022-01-18 21:22

Erectus Walks Amongst Us

86 2022-02-18 22:07

Works and Days

87 2022-02-19 17:28

>>71
I'm less into Theravada dogmatically these days, but Thanissaro Bhikkhu will always be a moral bastion for me.

88 2022-02-19 17:38

Halfway through Edward Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Also reading Theodor Mommsen's history of Rome.
I've been desultorily reading through the Philokalia, which presents an eerily similar vision of meditation and spiritual progression as that of the Thai Wilderness tradition.
Makes me think of this sutta about the unvarying nature of spiritual purification:
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN10_95.html

89 2022-03-17 21:39

Against Heresies/Adversus Haereses or On the Detection and Overthrow of the So-Called Gnosis by Irenaeus
https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/irenaeus.html
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103.htm
http://gnosis.org/library/advh1.htm

Refutation of All Heresies by Hippolytus
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0501.htm

Epistle of Barnabas
https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/barnabas.html

The Shepherd of Hermas
https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/shepherd.html
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0201.htm

The Nag Hammadi Library
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
The Nag Hammadi Scriptures by Marvin Meyer et al.

90 2022-03-17 23:14 *

>>89
Against the Valentinians
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0314.htm
https://www.tertullian.org/works/adversus_valentinianos.htm
https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/tertullian/tertullian.valentinianos.shtml

91 2022-03-18 01:18

I'm reading Herodotus. It's seriously one of the best book I've ever read.

92 2022-03-19 22:54

Better than Thucydides?

93 2022-03-20 00:19

>>89 what are you thoughts on the gnostic heresy?

94 2022-03-20 16:28

Dear Lord Baby Jesus, or as our brothers to the south call you, Jesús, we thank you so much for this bountiful harvest of Domino’s, KFC, and the always delicious Taco Bell. I just want to take time to say thank you for my family, my two beautiful, beautiful, handsome, striking sons, Walker and Texas Ranger, or T.R. as we call him, and of course, my red-hot smoking wife, Carley who is a stone-cold fox. Who if you were to rate her ass on a hundred, it would easily be a 94. Also wanna thank you for my best friend and teammate, Cal Naughton Jr. who’s got my back no matter what.

95 2022-03-24 21:37

>>93
When reading the texts of Church Fathers, it is very important to keep in mind that mainstream Christians are opposing Gnostic beliefs. The books that were selected to be part of the Bible had to be agreed upon my the majority and as result the texts are similar and the more controversial texts got dropped. Also, catholic means "universal", after all.

I would like to read the Vulgate and Septuagint at some point. But until I learn Latin and ancient Greek, I have to keep using KJV. I guess I better start reading Lingua Latina per se Illustrata (I would greatly appreciate other recommendations and tips if you happen to have any!)

gnostics and "gnosticism"

It's worth mentioning that the word "gnostic" can be used to refer to many different schools of thought. It can refer to Valentinians, Sethians, Manichaeism and even Mandaeans AND other groups. I recommend you read the epilogue of The Nag Hammadi Scriptures by Marvin Meyer et al. (it's also recommended that you read/compare many different translations of the texts. reading the texts in their original language would be even better). The word "gnôsis" refers to knowledge that is gained from one's personal experiences. There are also some non-gnostic texts in the Nag Hammadi Library (like the excerpt form Plato's Republic). Also, if you liked the text found in The Nag Hammadi Library, you will probably also enjoy the Corpus Hermeticum and Asclepius (aka The Perfect Sermon). Get Hermetica by Brian Copenhaver.

http://www.gnosis.org/library/hermet.htm

The Dead Sea Scrolls are also interesting (but not Christian). They are usually said to be written by a group of Essenes but this theory has been disputed by some. As far as I know, the translation by Geza Vermes is still regarded to be the best.

what are you thoughts on the gnostic heresy?

That's a difficult question to answer. It's probably closer to the Truth than the mainstream Christianity. The gnostic beliefs are influenced by neoplatonism, and I recommend you also read Plato's works (start with Republic http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.html or https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.+Rep.+toc).
Plotinus also wrote something about the gnostics:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Enneads/Against_the_Gnostics;_or,_Against_Those_that_Affirm_the_Creator_of_the_Cosmos_and_the_Cosmos_Itself_to_be_Evil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism_and_Gnosticism#Neoplatonist_objections

It's an interesting idea that Yaldabaoth = The (jealous) God of the Old Testament (Exodus 20:5, Exodus 34:14). You could also ask the question: since there are many different names of "god" (Yahweh, Elohim, Adonai, etc.) in The Old Testament, are they really referring the the same god or many different gods? Also, Who is the God of the Old Testament jealous of?

The Shepherd of Hermas and Epistle of Barnabas

To clarify, Epistle of Barnabas and The Shepherd of Hermas are not gnostic texts. Instead, these are other early Christian writings. In fact, The Shepherd of Hermas used to be even a part of the Bible (Codex Sinaiticus) at one point! There are also other interesting early Christian texts. And there also some interesting groups, such as the Nestorians and Arianism.

Also, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heresies_in_the_Catholic_Church (This list is incomplete; you can help by starting a new cult!)

96 2022-03-25 01:24

It's been a long day. As far as I am aware, the jealousy of God is that he doesn't want His children to belong to anyone else, only himself. My Hebrew is super-pathetic, but I have an interlinear and maybe that would be of some use for review. I have browsed the dead sea scrolls, and not all of it is cannon, yes, but certainly some of it is interesting. I'm not particularly interested in things outside the scope of cannon, excepting the apocryphal works. I have friends that swear by them, figuratively. Yes, gnostic heresy can be all over the place. I am putting Plato's "Republic" on my reading list right now, restocking my medicine bottle, then reading myself to sleep.

I am pretty sure the OT is referring to only one God, although I thought the similaraties between Baal and YWHW were pretty strange. I have never seen much to the contrary. There are some compound names, but they all refer to the Big Man as far as I am aware, because there has never been any distinction otherwise of note, not even any twisty hints I've been exposed to yet.

97 2022-03-26 04:03

Loud and Clear: The Memoir of an Israeli Fighter Pilot
by Iftach Spector

A recently retired Israeli Air Force general and its second-highest-scoring fighter ace, Iftach Spector is one of Israel’s living legends. He was the leader of the flight that attacked the USS Liberty in 1967. After the 1967 and 1973 wars, in which he commanded a squadron of fighter-bombers, he rose to head the IAF’s Training and War Lessons Section and later became its the Chief of Operations. He was one of the eight Israeli pilots who attacked Saddam Hussein’s nuclear reactor at Osirik in 1981.

In 2003, his career took an even more dramatic turn: he was the senior signatory of the famous “Pilots’ Letter,” in which Spector and 27 other Israeli pilots stated their refusal to bomb targets in Palestine where collateral damage would likely be severe. His maverick conscience is well on display in this artfully written memoir, which is currently a 10-week-and-counting bestseller in Israel and has been licensed in Brazil as well.

The son of a family that immigrated to Palestine at the turn of the 20th century, whose father and mother served in the Palmach, Israel’s early clandestine commando force, Spector has written a rich and reflective meditation on loyalty, on what is right and wrong in war, and on his dedication to the idea and reality of the state of Israel.

The Pilots’ Letter ended Spector’s military career, but also made him one of the most compelling and celebrated defenders of the conscience of the Jewish state. In that battle, as in his previous battles against Nasser’s MiGs, his mother’s constant lesson to him sustained him: “All from within.”

General Spector’s first book, A DREAM IN BLACK AND AZURE (1992; never translated into English), won the Sade Literary Award, given to him personally by Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. He has a B.A. in history and Middle East Studies from Tel Aviv University and a masters in political science from UCLA, both with honors.

98 2022-03-26 21:22

Juli Laczkó, THE ART OF HACKING
http://www.mke.hu/res/Laczko_Juli_EN_web.pdf

A small book about the origins of hacker culture, hacktivism and their impact on art. A bit dry but the parts about art was interesting.

99 2022-03-27 02:01

Zen mind, beginner's mind by Shunryu Suzuki.

100 2022-03-29 00:33

Reading Geometria I.

101 2022-03-29 21:50

Livy.

102 2022-05-04 16:29

That's quite an impressive array of texts. Are you interested in a virtual relationship? Are you a religious ideologue? If you are one then I am not interested. If you are a sound person let me know. Have you considered reading Pseudo-Dyonisius or Philo of Alexandria?

103 2022-05-04 16:33

>>89
Ioan P. Couliano has an intereating study on the subject of gnosticism titled The Tree of Gnosis: Gnostic Mythology from Early Christianity to Modern Nihilism. Post #102 is directed at you btw.

104 2022-05-04 16:36

>>89
That's quite an impressive array of texts. Are you interested in a virtual relationship? Are you a religious ideologue? If you are one then I am not interested. If you are a sound person let me know. Have you considered reading Pseudo-Dyonisius or Philo of Alexandria?

105 2022-05-04 18:45

please go away

106 2022-05-04 18:58

Why the fuck?

107 2022-05-04 19:34

anonymous boards are supposed to be anonymous

108 2022-05-04 19:34

Ah. I see. Welp.

109 2022-05-04 20:09

You won't let some random no-name internet guy tell you what to do, right?

110 2022-05-04 20:56

I have a name.

111 2022-05-04 23:03

>>110
Keep it secret

112 2022-05-05 00:11

Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You may remember me from such educational films as Two Minus Three Equals Negative Fun! and Firecrackers: The Silent Killer.

113 2022-05-05 13:50

>>112
I've no recollection of you Troy.

114 2022-05-14 06:34

Anyone read IRON WIDOW?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUgyP_7Obls
Based loosely on the only official Empress of China...

115 2022-05-20 11:26

>>102
I would prefer talking here at SchemeBBS.

Have you considered reading Pseudo-Dyonisius or Philo of Alexandria?

Yes.

116 2022-05-20 13:40

>>115
Why here?

117 2022-05-20 15:49

He's probably perma-saged off the 4chuck.

118 2022-06-06 12:35

I read Prometheus Rising because someone here recommended it. It was some crazy guy rambling about how people will be able to buy immortality pills by 2003.

119 2022-06-06 14:22

trolololoooool i recomended it! it was mere conjecture i was simply memeing.

120 2022-06-06 15:12

It was actually a pretty entertaining book, there were some good bits, but with the upper four circuits became progressively less convincing. Plus in the end, it's just yoga? That was a bit disappointing.

121 2022-06-14 22:50

Iron Widow, became a No. 1 New York Times Best Seller and won the 2021 BSFA Award for Best Book for Younger Readers.

122 2022-06-21 13:58

10. The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown: 80+ Million
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1. Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra: 500+ million

123 2022-06-21 16:01

One...Two...Three, counting by:Squirmy McBook Wormy

124 2022-06-23 06:17

>>123
Sounds fake

125 2022-06-23 11:25

>>124
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