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1 2021-08-03 02:12

good

2 2021-08-03 02:18

Is it true that anarchist ideal together with accepting a non-ideal world, leads either to stalinism or social democracy?
I'd imagine you can approach it in different ways?
One of which is actually free market capitalism?

Anyway, I mainly want to discuss anarchism without any kind of thought crime and want to draw understandable conclusions with some accuracy, whatever they may be...

3 2021-08-03 02:20

*ideals

4 2021-08-03 02:21

negative income tax

5 2021-08-03 02:23

is *less* bureaucracy

6 2021-08-03 02:27

Are anarchy, liberty and freedom synonyms?
I associate anarchy with the absolute theoretical ideal of complete freedom,
where freedom means absence of oppressive rulership.
And "liberty" is sometimes twisted around into US nationalist authoritarian global dominance, I feel...

7 2021-08-03 02:37

When people behave in a trustworthy way, they can be granted more freedom.

8 2021-08-03 02:42

i'm not sure that i'm very political to begin with, and honestly don't know very much about it all in all. I have known some free market types in my day, and honestly I'm more of a theocrat at this point, everyone free to do whatever they think is right under a system of arbiters or great spiritual leaders or whatever, and honestly I can imagine a lot of people may consider that "far out."

I think the nation of israel basically did good under judges, and there was a lot of upset when they demanded a king that would exact tribute from them. Whatever was actually going on, you decide, but I think they were better off without kings too.

When Christ was among His people, they all shared among themselves and everyone owned everything they all had. This, I mean, if that's how people want to behave, that's fine, and their own business, so I see something like this as an excellent way to be if the big man was in on it.

That said, at this point I'm not really sure. I like the idea of AI creating a post scarcity society. What's the big problem with everyone having a little wealth to live on? Useless eaters have hearts and minds, and there is much to be said for peace.

I like the idea of there being healthcare available to everyone, if they're going to tax why not? There might be other ways to go about it that are voluntary though, like through a Church.

I think .gov is unnecessary. I don't agree with people taking from others at gunpoint to fuel frankly off the wall crazy nonsense at the expense of human lives, human families, human souls and minds.

I am for liberty. I personally don't give a damn what you're doing as long as you're not tearing up other people's property in one of many ways, enacting violence or theft against anybody else. Wear a pink mohawk and get transumanistic about your gender, I simply don't care. It's none of my business. If you're a fine person, kudos, extra points with me.

I am most concerned with human dignity and decency and that's about where my politics end.

I just want to be left alone to do my own thing, and I think that's reasonable most of the time.

I feel really bad for regular folk.

9 2021-08-03 03:07 *

http://anus.com/ (American Nihilist Underground Society)

10 2021-08-03 03:17 *

>>8
Just out of curiosity; why did you decide to write this?

11 2021-08-03 03:54

>>10
Just out of curiosity; why did you decide to write this?

12 2021-08-03 04:08

>>11
probably shouldn't have, it's of no use to me to have said this. good night.

13 2021-08-03 13:43

In the end isn't free market anarchism supposed to do stuff like destroy the government through use of untaxed black markets? That sounds like a good way to end up being marked as a terrorist and murdered by the state or worse once this sort of thing gets rolling out of its armchair.

14 2021-08-03 19:44 *

>>13
Do anarchists have praxis? I thought it was more of a lifestyle/culture, basically equivalent to punk (plus charity work). Maybe anarcho-capitalists are similarly a sort of extra-American American. etc.

15 2021-08-03 21:37

>>14 i think there are three main branches, generally speaking, of anarchist thought; nihilist, communist, and free-market. Some of them do more than just spray paint anarchy signs everwhere.

16 2021-08-03 22:05 *

>>15
Same with punk, lots of zines, music, art, etc. I doubt anyone actually thinks e.g. squatting, or food not bombs is going to bring about a new society, so that's not praxis. I guess there are black blocks which take part in various protest/color-revolution activities, maybe that's a good example of praxis for them. Also seems like a lot of anarcho-capitalist run for office in the US.

17 2021-08-04 06:06

>>15
Capitalists are not anarchists.

>>14,16
They torch luxury car dealerships and shit.

18 2021-08-04 19:20

> some anarchist at an anarchist book store told me this once. Agorists monkey wrench the system by striking at the root, but after that reaches a critical mass big brother will come for them worse than they did the kkk.

Still, who doesn't like the idea of cypherpunk billionaire crypto anonymous living without a name and sticking it to the man? Better than some idiots egging a McDonald's.

19 2021-08-05 05:26

Noninitiation of force is big to me

20 2021-08-05 05:51

I love the agora, but if the good old boys are going to tax, at least they should help a brother out with the same basic health care they afford to convicted weirdos.

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