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12 2023-12-14 00:22

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Do you really think it's a great idea to have an automatic spam-filter mod that mutes people for "shitposting" or using "emotionally manipulative language"? I just can't envision it being effective at curbing things like flame-wars and trolling, which have been a thing long before platform algorithms. Imho that can be addressed only by active and strict human moderation, which I've seen happen a few times in small communities.

no profit decentralized systems with new protocols

Sounds a lot like mastodon, matrix, etc... I'm disappointed that you haven't mentioned those, but anyway, what are your thoughts about them?
Also, what do you think of Signal's author thoughts on decentralized systems? https://moxie.org/2022/01/07/web3-first-impressions.html

A protocol moves much more slowly than a platform. After 30+ years, email is still unencrypted; meanwhile WhatsApp went from unencrypted to full e2ee in a year.
If something is truly decentralized, it becomes very difficult to change, and often remains stuck in time. That is a problem for technology, because the rest of the ecosystem is moving very quickly, and if you don’t keep up you will fail

Users can opt into sets of filters curated by others—be they organizations committed to unbiased information dissemination or communities centered around specific interests. One might say that this is precisely what platforms do, but the difference is precisely that the user only opts-in to blacklists, not their content.

I'm afraid I don't understand. Currently, on say, twitter, you can easily subscribe to accounts dedicated to sharing news on a specific topic (for example http://twitter.com/planet_lisp ). If you like decentralization you can subscribe to an aggregated rss feed ( https://planet.lisp.org/ ). So we already have the technology facilities to allow users to curate content for other users. Do you mean that moderation should also work this way? You subscribe to a moderator, who then shares a blacklist of posts and users he banned? And this is going to change everything?

muh elitism and eternal september

You can go to usenet, irc, gopher, gemini or whatever if you hate people who aren't into outdated, under-performing technology and like to inconvenience themselves for no reason. Otherwise you can go on discord and find a niche community for the thing you care about. Unless it's mismanaged, a discord server should be free from grifters and trolls, and the shitposting will be contained to a channel or two you can silence. User choice sure is nice. (decentralized alternatives: matrix/revolt/whatever)
You might like user-filter captchas, never seen them except for mathchan though. Although by the way it's implemented, I wouldn't let the owner post on the computer science board.

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