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1 2022-11-01 15:41

Please cum 2 my site schizo.life
Fork the code on fuckmy.computer :^)
I got troubles with mails not betweeen my server

2 2022-11-01 18:04

You forgot to setup DKIM, DMARC and SPF.

3 2022-11-02 03:52

The fuck are those

4 2022-11-02 03:56

Will look into it. Setting up dovecot is a pain
And poatfix has so many parameteres

5 2022-11-02 06:43

Set it up and now the mail reaches gmail, thank you so much big SCHMATZL AND BUSSI TO YOU <3333

6 2022-11-02 12:02

I can send to google but not receive. ….

7 2022-11-02 13:34

>>6
Meanwhile /var/log: [2022-11-02 13:03] Yeah, fuck me.

8 2022-11-03 12:06

holy shit
I can post with my nokia e90 here

9 2022-11-15 19:11

>>5
Bullshit. You can set it up and gmail will reject your mail but if you relay it through eg icloud it will get delivered *even if that fails SPF.*
Google hates email because they don't control it. So they don't deliver for small mail operators no matter what and push their "rich" emails that only work on gmail.

Fuck Google. Don't use their software, they'll just trap you into some shitty Facebook-like silo.

10 2022-11-15 19:13

>>9,>>5
And FIY it will work for about 6 months so that you'll feel like its something you did. Go look at the Hackernews archives, about 6 months after they started doing this everyone showed up there to complain about it.

11 2022-11-15 20:07

Yeah, it’s really shitty how something simple like email gets sold behind candy store like user interface and controlled out the ass

12 2022-11-20 19:57

>>11
When I was younger, I always thought of e-mail as this mysterious, complicated black box thing because of the commercial candy-wrapping.
But then I started reading about historical systems like FidoNet and Usenet.
Then I started playing around with fetching and sending email using cURL.
Then I was like, "What? That's it."
Implementation details aside, electronic mail (as it was meant to be) is pretty elegant and powerful.

This is part of the reason I generally distrust "gratis" network services.
I think we'd have fewer problems if people were willing to pay money for network services like email and web publishing.
( Thank you Mister Ben for providing SchemeBSS gratis. <3 )

If only it were possible to package rock-solid technology in a way that made it usable for normies but without crazy levels of additional bloat and complexity.

Normies want features and a pretty face.
Engineers want rock-solid internals and controls.

13 2022-11-20 20:14

>>12

I think we'd have fewer problems if people were willing to pay money for network services like email and web publishing.

I'm already paying for ISP services.

14 2022-11-21 02:44

>>13
ISPs used to run mail service for their users. Even longer before that you used to be able to host them from residential connections instead of needing "business connections." (so I'm told.)

15 2022-11-21 12:24

>>12
Those candy-like interfaces keep things complicated and difficult to reimplement. I'm certain most of us could rewrite any meaningful part of most software in a weekend. I did a mail server once. It's all of the flashy UIs, integration (some of which even has strong social barriers like with mobile OSes) that protect the myth of a kind of technological priest class and keep the unaware users subdued.

16 2022-11-21 13:46

>>15

I did a mail server once.

>>2

17 2022-11-21 14:31

>>16
I mean I wrote an SMTP implementation. I've also set up mail servers but that's way less interesting.

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