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sol


how would improvise any song

1 2021-10-24 11:18

how would you improvise your favorite song? what would you try to recognize and play, the scales and chords?

2 2021-10-24 14:17

I would sample the Amen break.

3 2021-10-24 18:43

Natural C minor, with Amen break.

4 2021-10-24 19:28

C minor natural with amen breaks to where it is hardly music but terribly listenable

a psychoacoustic abberation that is really sick

all i ask

5 2021-10-24 20:36

F sharp minor is the key of improvisation.

6 2021-10-24 21:53

I'll do what I can, I promise you that

7 2021-10-25 15:54

ok i dont get. can you make a minor second interval sound good regardless of the song?

8 2021-10-25 17:01

You could use a genetic programming approach to create evolutionary music.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_music

9 2021-10-26 00:48

maybe, but this is just about being able to cover most pop songs and some classical musics. how hard could that be? "covering". seems alot of normies doing that

10 2021-10-26 01:50

>>9
I don't think it's "difficult" to cover contemporary and older popular songs. On a mechanical basis, people practice popular music as a part of learning their instrument. Taking the next step above that is to get basic training in music theory. Practicing and memorizing basic music theory provides significant insight to why each music moves the way it does.

11 2021-10-26 12:46

>>10
Agreed. Popular music usually repeats a lot of stuff over and over again. Improving or inventing in that direction is less about figuring out something new but rather how to use the known elements in a way that doesn't sound exactly the same as 100000 other attempts.

12 2021-10-27 01:42

>>11 Acid repeats a lot of stuff over and over again

hypnotism as expression, but not art, is fine with me.

13 2021-10-27 09:23

>>10
>>11
then what would you do, to, improvise a song, at least like this?
https://youtu.be/5hft807EJ6o
or this
https://youtu.be/LNsh_wthv-4

of which it is obviously not like the original which uses mostly vocals, so all the chords are ...nuanced to replicate the original? what do i do to embelish the melody, the progressions maybe?
or basically create the Correct intervals?

feel free to explain on your terms since, i couldnt find any explanation, fitting or satisfying enough to improvise these contemporary stuff... or link me any books sure.

14 2021-10-27 13:36

have you considered jazz or stuff like "jamming" ala bands like phish or goose or similar, just as something to consider? That's what comes to mind for me when I think improvisation in live music.

It's really a good question that I wish I had some answers for, but I am not enough of a musician to tell you. I'm hardly a musician at all. You could pick apart note by note what they're doing and try to see the relations a bar at a time, but this seems tedious when there might very welll be some more reasonable and compact explanation out there for what you're trying to understand.

when you find out what you're looking for, would you post your findings?

15 2021-10-28 02:43

i think jamming nicely is the goal, rather than the means. i do know bar by bar of a song by humming but i am not sure how to play them on hands thats what.... indeed, the case of being able to improv means you d need to be able to modulate everything in any pitch scale but i am not sure otherwise if the mind needs to know something to make/conpose nicely on the fly....
where to find is the question... i honestly have never seen any book goes in this specific detail either...

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