It seems the feeling of abandonment is often transfigured into nostalgia.
I don't understand. Could you give some examples of abandonment turning into nostalgia?
What kind of abandonment are you referring to? Someone abandoning you? You abandoning someone? Abandoning a personal project?
One example would be to grow up into a world you no longer understand.
Some would bother to mourn the "new" world they're in, when it's more accurate to say that their past was naivete yielded from abandonment: to be a deaf dumb mule, to not see reality, to not be taught.
Instead of confronting one was uneducated, unprepared, ignorant, instead most aspire to crawl back in.
But after you live long enough, you can't ignore anymore. No more placating, no more retrospectively harmful safe-spaces.
Still, it is common practice to idealize the "simple" past than to instead realize your time was wasted, you were too stupid to see how misled you were, and you now must catch up unless you would rather suffer needlessly.
So I find nostalgia distasteful. Because instead of crawling backward, one can realize that everything is now; expand upon the realities you want to be in!
So I find nostalgia distasteful.
This isn't an opinion by the psychology communities standard, nostalgia is a negative emotion for almost the exact reason you described.
Almost you went full circle back.
expand upon the realities you want to be in!
The ones you want to be in based on previous environments can still be.
uneducated, unprepared, ignorant
This is not being free of nostalgia, the trauma and attachment needs to go for a more sane desirable present goal without making expectations go up and attachments form.
nostalgia is a negative emotion for almost the exact reason you described
Nostalgia often is described as bitter-sweet, I agree it has negative tones to it.
The bitterness under the lens of nostalgia comes from wanting to be back in the past, which is a reason some call it distasteful, unfulfilling.
Nostalgia is a mixed emotion for sure, yet do you think there are people who find nostalgia more sweet than bitter? That's what I've found.
The reason I call it distasteful is under the lens of reflection. To look at the abandonment, trauma, attachment, etc with a clear eye, no fondness.
The ones you want to be in based on previous environments can still be.
Another important thing to note, yes, we build ladders from our base, or past experiences. Some can!
I just personally found that sometimes the base is so rotted from delusion and harmful beliefs that one must start fresh.
I.e. Matthew 7:24-29
This is not being free of nostalgia
Yes, to remedy yourself from the haunt of the past with a clear eye requires working through the discovered trauma and attachment, which is distinct from nostalgia.
What I wanted to note here is that such conclusions of the past aren't there with a nostalgic perspective. Nostalgia clouds the eye.
Those enamored with the past disregard their uneducated, unprepared, ignorant nature.
Everything in the past was "right" and it's the current world that is wrong.
To instead criticize the current reality instead of oneself. To idolize the simple past.
So you first have to free yourself of nostalgia, and then you'll have to free yourself of attachment and trauma, as you've said.
It just seems that one can only see such attachment and trauma when one sheds the fondness for the past, which is difficult depending on your mind-makeup.
You have to see the pitfalls. Reverting this transfiguration is difficult.
Some could see their ignorance as either their salvation (let's go back to the past) or bane of their existence (I need to fix myself and move on from such things).
Also, I'm not familiar with the commentary from psychological communities about nostalgia. If they also say that nostalgia blocks those from realizing their mistakes and so on.
In my response I assumed they describe it as a negative because of the first lens, the lens of nostalgia: the bitter of the sweetness that sets in due to ones inability to go back.
Not the second lens, the lens of clear reflection: to realize you're propping up wastes of memories and lies and shrouding the more negative reality of your past through idolization of its simplicity/carefree. To transfigure it.
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Nostalgia is chaotic neutral leaning on being chaotic evil in my opinion since it leaves the neurotypical model extremely vulnerable to greatly increasing negative affectivity, will effectively develop a personality or mood disorder later. In worst case a psychosis disorder since it's directly at the model's foundations for defining reality. It's effectively high potential trauma but the psychological communities won't describe it like that.
It's a extremely abstract emotion switch, that is more likely to collapse into strong negative emotions leading to detaching with reality, compared to giving a short lived good experience.
Another important thing to note, yes, we build ladders from our base, or past experiences. Some can!
Can still be crawling backwords, worded poorly but now I can't remember what that response really meant. Your reply contains that concept strictly now so unimportant maybe you understood that from that comment.
Calling things corrupt implies some type of purity concept from the initial environment when the mainline system for defining emotions strictly works with nous not something external like soul. A artificial human from an artificial womb and sperm brought up in a controlled lab is just as pure as someone born in a country with good welfare and brotherhood if only nous defines the model.
Neither of them are handling getting their mind siphoned and sent somewhere not based on previous models, the realities they want to be in are completely arbitrary here and harmful for adaptation. Looking at standard negative affectivity and positive affectivity models and highly competitive city models it would appear the theoretical lifespan increase isn't worth being made prey of with higher suicide rates.
do you think there are people who find nostalgia more sweet than bitter
In the rare chance nostalgia leads to something productive and increasing positive affectivity, it's a positive emotion then.
This means when going towards the nostalgia, it's not harmful to get there and the nostalgia relates to something the current models matrix finds positive.
It's much more likely the mind will break off into alters from the past being inconsistent than positive affectivity increasing.
I'm not sure this is what your asking by sweet and bitter but I'm assuming it's positive and negative.
For the clouded vision anyone that has discussed nostalgia with me discusses it in a positive light until reciting it but no longer describes it like nostalgia. There was not one which could go to the nostalgia and stay there comfortably, it usually mostly changed if anything positive came of it and again was never considered nostalgia at that point.
bitter sweet
It's better to describe it as a negative affectivity landmine and not to forget there are those interested in collecting landmines and those who would love stepping on a landmine and consider it their life goal. Since nostalgia develops for the model, collecting spooky randomly appearing landmines without them blowing up is important and positive. Unlikely anyone here is that asinine model but collect the trash possibly make some of it treasure and don't live in a mood swamp.
For all terminology and laziness it's negative not neutral but that wouldn't pass formally.