Different peace draft for Ukraine
Russians soldiers withdraw from all of pre-2014 Ukraine, that means even including Crimea, UNDER THE CONDITION, that all US military, including its secret service members, withdraws from Ukraine as well, and Russia is allowed access to their fleet in the Black sea AND Ukraine promises to never join NATO, ceases its current "enhanced opportunities" association with it and permanently becomes a neutral sovereign country.
If the contract is broken, there is war again, until the next peace contract. We general population in the West shouldn't allow the post-2001 secret service monolith to wag the dog again into such a war, out of our own interest. Ideally, corporations would be fined, according to their involvement. Particularly for agitation and propaganda.
By "access to their fleet", I mean somezhing like a single Ukrainian contolled highway that Russian military has a pass for travelling to Crimea ports and back, but no other purpose and only if they don't use or threateningly display weapons on the way.
*something (no pun with Z intended sorry I'm getting exhausted from typing and thinking)
...which reminds me: Don't cause more problems for problem-solvers!
After peace treaty: Elections
Ukraine is gone. The US funded its genocide. Even the young women have been killed now.
Everybody stop all violence of every sort. Problem solved.
Dude, let's legalize the drugs in UKRAINE and all do a candyflip to some hardstyle beats and get fonky freash AI robot generated video games to peace era back to the stoned age. Drugs. Drugs are the answer.
We gotta gas 'em with MDMA gas, nitrous cookies, heady beasters- they'll be some cuddly and docile that the only war we'll have to wage is
MUNCHIES IN THE FREEEEEDZER
Both sides decide to share wives for one night. Problem solved.
World peace and enlightenment can only be achieved when Scheme is universally recognized as the preeminent programming language.
>>10 Given all the sometimes hilarious reasons for past wars, it would be surprising if another war does not break out over which implementation of Scheme should be chosen as the canonical one.
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The answer to that is easy, the canonical interpretation should be.....
all these wars and conflicts are staged, as controlled demolition of bankrupt economies and population. there won't be peace, fossil fuels are finite, quite opposite, all brace for more wars.
idea/proposal for peace plan:
Trump announce establishment of Macau-like entity in Chornobyl area. TSMC opens there an fab plant factory, along side Arm, AMD Radeon GPU factory. Makes average salaries higher than Belgian. Everyone wants to work & trade no fight.
Zeekr & Faw bestune start production of yachts & ships there , Ukraine build infrastructure on Dnipro river connecting Belt & Road with `Global Gateway`, establishing an trade route from warangians to greeks. Connecting Valdai to sea port.
Ukraine declares yiddish as 2nd official language.
>>11
That's why there would be a powerful Scheme priesthood and an inquisition to enforce Scheme orthodoxy, and crush the schismatic heretics.
>>11
I will write a screenplay about this
Ideas for peace in Ukraine
Unconditional surrender of the current Ukrainian government. Ukraine joins the Union State with Russia and Belarus. Europe will enter a new era of peace and prosperity.
>>17
All European states should join the Union State and become full CSTO members. The EU, EEA, and NATO will become obsolete.
>>11
There would be one Scheme implementation: Canonical Scheme™. All others will be outlawed.
Last week, the following things happened:
- Ukraine said it needed to join NATO or acquire nuclear weapons
- North Korea sent troops to Ukraine having already sent considerable military aid to Russia
- China told its people to prepare for war, while conducting further training exercises close to Taiwan
- Russia continued to manipulate the US election through ever more subtle disinformation
- Iran is still trying to acquire nuclear weapons from Russia
- Israel has reportedly moved its nuclear arsenal to dispersed sites.
I’ve seen nothing like this in my lifetime. The world is a powder keg. All it takes is one miscalculation, one unintended act of escalation, one over-reaction, and who knows what could happen.
Meanwhile, America has the two worst presidential candidates of modern times, Europe is governed by weak leaders. And potential adversaries are using fifth columnists to divide the populations of western nations against each other.
I just wonder when we will wake up to the dangers we face.
>>20
Time to emigrate from Earth.
Russia continued to manipulate the US election through ever more subtle disinformation
Why do you know this? Are you able to elaborate on this. In the 2016 elections, the evidence showed that the largest Russian campaign for the US election amounted to small time Facebook ads and articles. I'd love to see evidence about Russian funded misinformation for the 2024 elections.
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"Russia" is globohomo proxy and scapegoat, and >>20 is a shill crappost.
yep, the man with botox is not "Putin"
Ideas for peace in Ukraine? Get rid of Putin; make Russia a true democracy.
war is staged, real Putin is dead, Russia is controlled "enemy"
>>25
Vladimir Putin is an AI puppet of the American armaments industry. The invasion of Ukraine was planned by a consortium of American weapons manufacturers to increase sales. American lawmakers are supportive because the war increases tax revenue and employment.
>>26
Using warfare as a means to economic growth has to be one of dumbest ideas that humanity has ever conceived.
How would anyone think that we can grow our economy by destroying another economy, or in the case of civil war, our own economy.
Wars might increase weapons sales but at what cost? Won't it be easier to just pay people dig holes and then pay others to fill the same holes?
Heck, if you think there is nothing left to support economic growth, just take a look at all the research proposals coming out and the list of unsolved scientific problems.
In any case, warfare is staged for purely different reasons other than purely economic growth. My hunch is HUMAN GREED. Just take a look at how much land is currently unoccupied, yet a battle ensues over some very specific piece of land. Leading to the question, won't it be easier to just develop some unoccupied piece of land instead of fighting over some one specific set of coordinates?
>>26
Biden created a lot of jobs, so people can have the three jobs necessary to pay for basic living expenses.
it's not about "economic growth", it's about depopulation. controlled demolition of bankrupt Ukrainian economy. 90% of people are parasites. as long as people multiply like rabbits they will go on killing each other like rabbits. it's nice to understand that soon there will be much more blood, vaxxers and pro lifers killing each other.
There are more effective means to depopulate than warfare.
Given, economic growth is clearly not the aim of warfare. Albeit, it does bring a smile to weapons manufacturers whenever warfare is staged.
The true causes of warfare, in my opinion, are for us mere mortals to speculate. We cannot start them when we want, neither can we stop them when we don't.
look at the oil, gas, coal chart prices in 22 go brrr.
If Trump win, let's ask him to legalize anonimity & privacy, and acknowledge them as a basic human rights. He will approve & support.
opinions don't matter. war in Ukraine is absolutely staged, and the only purpose of "economic growths" is to occupy people, create stupid "jobs". 80% of "jobs" are rituals aimed to solve invented problems. claus schwab is right: most people are useless eaters.
Ukraine is bankrupt and service economy (including government) is a bubble. bubbles must be deflated.