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Words you hate the most

1 2020-03-11 15:40



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The key here is that it is ``programs'' with an ``s'' at the end.
That's why it works.

65 2020-08-10 18:37

Code is just the result of a programmer programming; its like calling a Chef who makes food a "fooder".

It's not like that at all. Let's examine that analogy:

Food is just the result of a fooder fooding

Can you see what's wrong with that phrase? ``Food'' is never a verb.
But with code:

Code is just the result of a coder coding. Perfectly grammatical and meaningful. ``Code,'' on the other hand, is---can be---a verb.

(There remains the point about whether being the result of coding---programming, as your preference may have it---is all that code is, but we'll not get into that involved topic.)

coding implicitly has a lower value than programming, because the former just produces code, while the latter reasons about programms.

Not so! To programme is to make a programme---be it encoded or in a sloppy form---but not necessarily to understand or reasons through it. Surely a good programmer would---rather, should---but experience suggests otherwise. On the other hand, one might code something other than a programme---a data structure, for instance. But there is a ``higher intellectual level'' associated with programming relative to coding---coding need only make it rigorous, making a good programme is a creative task---perhaps just composing extant programmes, but which? how?
Often something is to be programmed, and coded. One having both abilities may be more effective.

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67 2020-08-12 05:41 *

it really is

68 2020-08-13 12:20

Darkweb contains of sites that are beyond first page of google.
99% of users don't bother even scrolling to the end of page.



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1 2020-08-13 05:58

So about the history of BSD, I have to say that the BSD projects have successfully covered up a lot of the History of their OS which is full of scandals and replaced it with one that causes a lot of people to look at BSD as being innocent.

It all started in 1974 when Bob Fabry, worker at the University of California purchased a copy of UNIX from bell labs to run their PDP-11. The Fabry and his colleges started modifying their copy and adding more software to it (that time, AT&T had not made the code proprietary). In 1977, Fabry’s grad student the infamous Bill Joy also started contributing to Berkeley’s copied of UNIX. Most of the people contributing believed that code should be free for others to modify and redistribute (effectively making it free software which is what the FSF foundation is pushing today). Bill Joy however believed software should be proprietary and that companies should be allowed to abuse their users and costumers. Joy went one step further by supporting the idea that companies should be able to take code from people who produce free software and make them proprietary to enslave users. Any true supporter of free software should recognize this as a hideous and disgusting though on the part of Bill Joy which a lot of people considered the most evil second only to Steve Jobs.

To make his idea come through, took the pieces of software contributed to Berkeley’s UNIX and removed their copyright and placed his own on it and a license he created to allow companies to free taken code and close it. The license would later be known as the BSD license. He then decided to release these software as a bundle add-on for UNIX called BDSM as he hopes that the bundle would become a complete set of software to be used as raw materials for proprietary software to enslave and mistreat users. However, Joy was forced to change the name of the bundle to BSD as Joy’s proposed name was to inappropriate. Joy would eventually be kicked out of Berkeley after his superiors released what he had done but not before Joy release his second version of BSD and brain washed others to his idea.

Bill Joy would eventually created his own evil corporation, Sun Microsystems which subjugated millions of innocent people before being destroyed by Linux and the remains acquired by Oracle (A GNU/Linux company).

Back at Berkeley, supporters of Bill Joy’s idea continued to work on BSD mainly by taking code from the GNU project lead by Richard Stallman, removing the GPL and replacing it with their BSD license. By that time, the GNU was almost a complete OS (it still lacked a kernel). This actually gave BSD the ability to developed a full OS with minimum effort (yes that’s right BSD owes GNU a lot. Without GNU, BSD would not have existed which is really sad as GNU was made to free people while BSD or more correctly BDSM was made to enslave pean ople).

In the late 1980s, Microsoft, Apple and other proprietary software companies noticed BSD as a source of free code to make proprietary software out of and wanted to gain more control over the project. So they initiated a plan to achieve that which culminated in the lawsuit between USL and UC Berkeley over BSD (The details of the plan are still as of this time not fully known yet). The lawsuit ended with USL the winner and UC Berkeley had to halt development of BSD and was forced to remove important pieces of code which resulted in an unmaintained OS which could not boot and required rare and obsolete hardware to run. This piece of junk was called 4.4BSD-lite. With BSD snatched from the hands of the owners at Berkeley, Apple took the code and assigned some of it’s developers to work on the it renaming it FreeBSD developed by an entity calling itself the FreeBSD project which is in really a subsidiary of Apple. Netapp and Microsoft were able to bribe a number of FreeBSD developers to split off and form NetBSD from which Netapp and Microsoft could take code from. OpenBSD was formed after one of the NetBSD developers (Theo de Raadt) had an affair with a FreeBSD developer and thus are kicked out.

As BSD progressed, it’s code became more and more fragmented as more proprietary companies control BSD. Each of these fragments to started to fighting with each other and within the projects themselves, various power struggles began making headlines once in a while.

And so that is the true history of BSD which goes to show how BSD is screwed up and controlled and owned by proprietary companies and no one should use them. Linux should be used instead, it is made for freedom and it is well designed and not politically motivated like the BSDs are.



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How do you handle anxiety?

1 2020-07-19 21:12

I have been struggling with anxiety for some time now. Meditation helps sometimes, but other times I am not able to concentrate nor to stop thinking at all.


7 2020-07-23 20:22


8 2020-07-24 14:53


How do you handle anxiety?

Poorly. I basically live in solitary confinement, because Hell is other people.

9 2020-07-25 10:37

Ashwagandha and saffron may help.

10 2020-07-25 20:26


11 2020-08-12 15:21

Exercise: It may seem impossible to get motivated, but you don't need motivation. Don't even bother probing your feelings. Anxiety commonly causes depression, which in turn causes people to feel they are not enjoying thing and will not enjoy things even if they try them. The trick is to do it anyways. Keep it up for months. Try to keep your heart rate elevated for 30 minutes a day. If you fail or are physically tired or sore and cannot do it just accept you are human. Failure is a normal part of life. Try to made exercise a habit. It is not easy, but many people report exercise at the main and best cure for the depression part of anxiety. That can help you sleep better and that will help with feeling tense.

Might try cutting caffeine and stimulants out of your diet and try to not overeat or eat unhealthy foods. Try to avoid taking sleeping pills or other aids to make you feel sleepy. This can help occasionally, but if you are taking them several times a week or multiple nights in a row you are probably only hurting yourself in the long run. Drink a lot of water to help with exercise and avoid headaches.

Look for tips on improving sleep.

Maybe trying making a time to write down you worries (plan for a time to worry and then try to only worry each day during that time), that works for some people.

Mindfulness has proven to help many people with anxiety.

I haven't seen these, but they are on I2P:
TTC - Practicing Mindfulness An Introduction to Meditation

Clearnet torrent of a pretty relaxing book (overly spiritual, but it also has a lot of good tips for mindfulness):
Mindfulness in Plain English by Bhante Gunarantana
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:01550874f1b65109dfdd639a805e5e1383ea8cbc&dn=Mindfulness in Plain English&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Feddie4.nl%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.pirateparty.gr%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.zer0day.to%3A1337

Onion: Epub for Mindfulness in Plain English

Anxiety sucks. I suggest not resorting to long-term drug use, as there are probably healthier way to deal with it. But even then, drugs are probably better then living with anxiety for years.



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What URL are you using to connect to SchemeBBS?

1 2020-07-28 15:27

I am using bbs.jp.net but apparently there are many others.


6 2020-07-29 16:28


7 2020-07-29 17:33

I think I heard about it on lainchan.

8 2020-08-04 00:39 *

Just stumbled upon it from another textboard (forgot what it was called, it's likely dead now.)

9 2020-08-09 12:37


10 2020-08-10 16:47

textboard.org its easy to remember



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Getting things done

1 2020-07-31 15:20

Share your strategies and tactics to accomplishing things, e.g. time-management, behaviorial conditioning, etc.


4 2020-08-01 19:57

I make a list. It helps keep me on track and seeing things on the list bothers me a bit so I actively work to clear them off. This has made me a bit too rigid though, and I get pretty upset sometimes if things disrupt my plans.

5 2020-08-01 22:08

I wear special outfits to do certain tasks.

6 2020-08-01 22:21

I only do this for select activities, like sleeping or swimming.

7 2020-08-02 00:13

I guess it's time for me to start wearing a programming cape.

8 2020-08-02 18:39

Of course I use org-mode like all highly successful people. I have a file for my daily tasks, every morning I make a heading for the day and put under it everything I want to get done that day. Usually it's not very long and sometimes I modify it during the day. I schedule all the tasks for the day and use the agenda view to manage them. I also have some recurring tasks set up (like daily Anki reviews) using org-habit and the agenda view also shows birthdays and other important dates that I have set up (using org-anniversary). In university I would also set up deadlines for assignments, tests and exams. Back then I used to track the time I spent studying using org-clock but I don't do that anymore.

I only do these at home, at work I am back to the simple daily todo list. Maybe I should start tracking my time there.



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oh hai! Greetings from /a/!

1 2020-08-01 19:15

My name is Rachel and I am a lesbian from Massachusetts! I love Harry Potter, Sherlock, Doctor Who, The Mighty Boosh, kpop, SNSD, Sunny <3, Starkid, and superheroes. I suffer from severe emetophobia, as well as anxiety and depression. I’m sorry if I offend you in any way, but I say what I feel no matter what. That being said, message me if you want to! I’m all ears!

2 2020-08-01 19:16 *

Is this a copy-pasta?

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I hope.



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We don't need Codes of Conduct, period

1 2020-03-05 02:34

Everything is already said in RFC 1855 (Netiquette Guidelines) When was it suddenly superseded?

Diversity? Respect? Inclusion? Sexual harassment?

Remember that the recipient is a human being whose culture,
language, and humor have different points of reference from your
own.  Remember that date formats, measurements, and idioms may
not travel well.   Be especially careful with sarcasm.
There are Newsgroups and Mailing Lists which discuss topics
of  wide varieties of interests.  These represent a diversity of
lifestyles, religions, and cultures.  Posting articles or sending
messages to a group whose point of view is offensive to you
simply to tell them they are offensive is not acceptable.
Sexually and racially harassing messages may also have legal
implications.  There is software available to filter items
you might find objectionable.
Since the Internet spans the globe, remember that Information
Services might reflect culture and life-style markedly different
from your own community.  Materials you find offensive may
originate in a geography which finds them acceptable.  Keep an open

Microaggressions? Trigger warnings?

Wait overnight to send emotional responses to messages.  If you
have really strong feelings about a subject, indicate it via
FLAME ON/OFF enclosures.  For example:
FLAME ON:  This type of argument is not worth the bandwidth
           it takes to send it.  It's illogical and poorly
           reasoned.  The rest of the world agrees with me.


October 1995

But, of course, people shoving their CoC down everyone's throat weren't even born.


33 2020-07-04 09:19 *

we live in a society

34 2020-07-21 14:06

You can just kick a person out if their behavior is disruptive. Civil behavior is kind of universal in an enviroment where people's identities are linked to what they say. Codes of conduct only exist to virtue signal and abuse. It leads to Kicking somebody out not because they've negatively affected whatever work is being done, but because some completely unrelated action they've done can be interpreted as violating the project's "moral principles". When people are kicked out on a case by case basis, it's also more likely that a specific reason will be provided and not "they violated the code".

35 2020-07-21 16:32

Trannies. Trannies, trannies, trannies.

36 2020-07-22 10:38 *

Timmy! What did I say about saying naughty words in class?

37 2020-07-26 09:17 *




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Any library on i2p?

1 2020-06-30 23:58

I'm looking for a library on i2p, specifically about python, however, it could include any other languages and topics.


5 2020-07-02 00:36

I hear the Library of Baghdad migrated to i2p. Not sure about the one in Alexandria though.

6 2020-07-02 22:01 *

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

7 2020-07-04 04:05 *


8 2020-07-07 04:49

I don't see why people go camping. If I wanted to freeze my balls off and shit in a bucket, I would sleep at my aunt's house in the ghetto.

9 2020-07-21 12:56

Not i2p but http://zlibraryexau2g3p.onion



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The realization of one's true self-value

1 2020-06-10 23:47

I'm bad at math, every the simplest arithmetic calculations make me self-conscious and I end up either avoiding them or messing them up. I secretly avoid tasks and games that require intelligence, strategy, probability, connecting the dots... etc knowing that I'll fail miserably.

I'm actually very bad at programming despite claiming that it is my sole interest to cope with the reality that I'm in fact bad at everything else. Most of what I know is basic knowledge that anyone willing to spend time on it can understand, the rest comes out of the little experience I have. Nothing that I'd assign to myself truly.

My interest in literature is null, other forms of art such as the Japanese media I follow are generally something that isn't made to be discussed but rather simply digested to pass one's day. There's no true value to it and even if I came across something that can be discussed, I'd find myself lacking a solid personal opinion and having very few words on the matter. Looking at others write detailed discussions about their interests only seems to put me down even further with this realization in mind. My vocabulary seems to be very bland and simple, unable to make noticeable progress. I fail to even remember names of characters I once thought I'm fond of.

Everything that I try to get into scares me away right from the start, or rather I scare myself away... Even in this post, I cannot seem to find the appropriate words and expression to truly explain how I feel about my situation or what my situation is. I'm lacking the foundations but what are these foundations? That I don't know.

I don't want to keep isolating myself avoiding everything in my safespace anymore. I'd like to have a strong identity and strong opinions about things that interest me truly. I'd like to describe this issue even further and pin down both the questions and their respective answers. Did /sol/ ever experience this before? I wonder what /sol/ has in mind for me.


10 2020-07-01 21:15

Bro "science" is so retarded.

11 2020-07-14 21:01

> 10

That's fine. I'm retarded. You are much cooler than a simple Bro, anon.

12 2020-07-15 01:41

You shouldn't feel guilty to exist.

13 2020-07-16 07:46


Can you do anything about it? Does not seem like it. So you can either get depressed about it or simply use your time on something more pleasant.

Regarding being bad at stuff: So what? On one hand you are surely not getting better if you avoid it and on the other considering a considerable portion of humanity lacks a second braincell it's not like you are going to stick out in a negative way as long as you are just bad or even mediocre.

Only the anime i am not sure about. Is this really how you want to spend your day? Looking at stories about exaggerated characters whose life is full of meaning? If you keep your mental distance fine but i figure it might give you some wrong expectations. 99.99999% of this planets population isn't heroes or important or anything and they never will be. Still it's perfectly OK.

14 2020-07-16 22:02


Can you do anything about it? [...] more pleasant.

I'm not getting depressed about it and ruining myself over time. I did/do choose to improve myself over time as much as I can. I also asked for advice here and followed some and trying to follow rest of the tips I see helped me. I would say that that anyone *really* willing to fix this situation would choose to give it more time and energy even if it all feels useless and meaningless.

I picked a book in each subject I felt horribly bad at and following through some of them and giving them proper attention. For the things that I had stated I am average or good at e.g., programming, I found that questioning everything I know before I'm about to use it to be very useful, even if it's only just opening the Wikipedia page and reading about the concept e.g., What is testing? Why do I write tests in this particular way? This proved to be quite efficient too.

on the other considering a considerable portion of humanity lacks a second braincell [...] you are just bad or even mediocre.

I would you to elaborate this part please. Is it really enough? Is really satisfying to simply rely on the "fact" that a considerable portion of humanity lacks a second braincell? Why can't one be better if they so wish, even wish desperately? As far as I know, there isn't a strict rule limiting how you can know *assuming* you even know how much you want to know.

Even your statement, if you don't mind me saying this, is weak. Lacking a second braincell doesn't completely eliminate all your chances of mastering at least one thing. Being at bad stuff that you've got your vision on doesn't necessarily mean you cannot fix or you cannot find other things that you can actually be good at. Both are time consuming and are, I think, mutually exclusive for the most part. I know you said "or even medicore" which I do agree with, I think it's fine to be medicore at some things but shouldn't one be good at least one thing? Why isn't it possible for people, or rather why can't it be possible, to simply be good at at least one thing. Are some humans, such as myself in this case, only limited by mediocrity? How can you prove that?

Only the anime i am not sure about. [...]. Still it's perfectly OK.

I never implied any of this. I solely mentioned the fact that it would be best for one to have strong opinions about things they consume. Strong understanding of stories they choose to read. Say you're a fan of X and meet another fan of it, how would you proceed to have a rich conversation with that person about X? How are you supposed to enrich your knowledge about it? Keep in mind that it's a story, it's also not created by you but agreed on by you. There are some stories that leave a thing in you but you don't necessarily feel like adding more to it. You choose to recommend that someone reads it directly instead of talking about it, you choose not to discuss the story but rather point at it. But what about the discuss-able ones? I personally have very little experience with those. Anon's recommendation of *Notes From The Underground* was certainly a good one and I personally fail to see how to discuss other than to simply appreciate it. I'm talking about discussing things you appreciate fully, about giving back to them, about having a good grasp of them and so on... Not watching something for the sole purpose of passing time or watching characters be heroes and get what they want.

Thank you for your reply.



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Hey folks, check out my textboard

1 2020-07-10 18:10



3 2020-07-12 14:39 *

No tech board
.ga domain

nice try op

4 2020-07-12 19:32 *

Are .ga domain free or something?

5 2020-07-13 11:43 *

The rules are disturbing for that freedomain cabal.

6 2020-07-15 03:42


There's a programming board, idiot.

7 2020-07-28 14:21 *

That's not what he said.



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